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Mensagem  malibuman em Sab Out 10, 2009 7:13 pm

Now that the bugs are confirmed for Jan 2010 here is a collection of rumors from The Dude over on warseer:
Rules

Army-wide Special Rules and Biomorphs

Many and new improved psychic abilities in the book.

Special Character or "Alpha" species may make an appearance.

The Incoming Tyranids article on the GW website makes mention of new Tyranid Species. The Trygon is likely one, but there may be more (possibly up to 4 total).

May possibly get a buff to anti-tank abilities.

HQ

Hive Tyrant – No news yet

Tyrant Guard – No news yet

Broodlord – Early rumours of the Broodlord allowing Elite Genestealers as Troops.

Elites

Tyranid Warriors - More emphasis on Tyranid Warriors in this book, perhaps even allowing you to take them in every FOC slot. For example if they have wings then they're Fast Attack, Tougher/Stronger and heavy weapons in Heavy Support etc.

Lictor – Possibly an additional “psychic" variant

Troops

Genestealers – No news yet

Gaunts – No news yet

Ripper Swarm – No news yet

Fast Attack

Gargoyles – No news yet

Raveners – No news yet

Spore Mines – No news yet

Heavy Support

Carnifex – No news yet

Biovore – Rumoured new type believed to have a Pyro Acid spray weapon.

Zoanthrope – No news yet

Trygon - Different builds available, presumably with different powers ala Carnifex kit. Possibly allows Raveners to Deep Strike through the same tunnel as it without rolliong for Reserves and then Assault afterwards.

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Mensagem  madwolf em Qui Out 29, 2009 3:48 am

Sendo um jogador nid é claro k ando atento ao k se passa na net sobre as novidades que ai veem.
Eis o que encontrei em alguns forums....


As supostas caracteristicas deste novo nid:

As far as base stat-line goes I would say it's something close to this:
WS 4
BS 3
S 4
T 4
A 2+2, 2 or 3
I 4
W 2
Ld 10
Sv 2+/6+

And abilities will be something like this:
Feeder Tendrils, Toxic Miasma or a new type of Miasma (possibly affecting I),
Three psychic powers with one being Warp Field by default Warp Tuning Fork,
Two or four Lash Wipes that stack and Poison, Instant death or both.

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Mensagem  Madness em Qua Dez 09, 2009 11:29 pm

Bem para quem quiser ver praticamente os ultimos rumors(daqui a 2 semanas ja deve andar o codex completo pela net), tem aqui um resumo onde 90% é confirmado, e prontos quem quiser ir pro natal com ideias de compras novas ou ismplesmente preparar os discursos de abusado etc. tem-los aqui:

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RUMORS ROUNDUP
PLEASE NOTE that most of this stuff are rumors heard here and there
Any new stuff will be highlighted like this for couple of days to allow easier rumour search.

RELEASE TIME: 16TH JAN 2010 (GD UK)
CODEX COVER http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif (from GW's site)
http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif (from Warseer, bigger shot)
cover art breakdown - page21 by Eidre

GENERAL INFO: 4 new species
Hive Guard
Venomthrope
Pyrovore
Trygon (by Scryer in the Darkness, Warseer)

Codex will have 96 pages
Codex written by Robin Cruddace (author of Guard dex)
Return of special characters (but they're like not meant to be special - they're just survivors of a big war and then mutated) (Phill Kelly @GD Germ)

New Battleforce, £60
Content:
3 Warriors
3 Ripper Swarms
8 Genestealers
16 Gaunts
16 Hormagaunts
Pic of box' back (DragonPup, WarSeer)
http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif

Hive Fleets painting scheme got re-touch - all weapons got different colour
Leviathan - red weapons
Kraken - green weapons
Behemoth - black weapons


MODELS:
3 new plastic kits and 3 new metal kits (GW site)
No re-done plastic kits (Lotoc_Sabbath, WarSeer)

New background for Tyranid kits
http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif


Tyranid future releases (Scryer in the Darkness, WarSeer)
Hiveguard (1 model)<metal blister> £12.00 / US$20.00 / C$24.00 / 17,50€ / Oz$33.00
Venomthrope (1 model)<metal blister> £12.00 / US$20.00 / C$24.00 / 17,50€ / Oz$33.00
Pyrovore (1 model)<metal box> £20.00 / US$33.00 / C$39.50 / 26,00€ / Oz$55.00
Spore mines (10 models)<metal blister> £10.00 / US$16.50 / C$19.75 / 13,00€ / Oz$28.00
Raveners (3 models)<plastic box> £27.00 / US$44.50 / C$53.50 / 35,00€ / Oz$74.00
Battleforce (46 plastic models)<plastic box> £60.00 / US$105.00 / C$130.00 / 85,00€ / Oz$165.00
Gargoyles (10 plastic models)<plastic box> £18.00 / US$29.00 / C$34.75 / 22,75€ / Oz$48.00
Trygon (1 plastic model)<plastic box> £30.00 / US$49.50 / C$59.50 / 39,00€ / Oz$83.00
Hormogaunts (12 plastic models)<plastic box> £15.00 / US$24.75 / C$29.75 / 19,50€ / Oz$41.00
Termagants (12 plastic models)<plastic box> £15.00 / US$24.75 / C$29.75 / 19,50€ / Oz$41.00


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HIVE TYRANT
Hive Tyrant will not get a new model (Allesio at GD Italy)
Tyrants definitely have expanded psychic powers.
+A +I, 5+ invul save default
Regen upgrade option as Fex (points expensive) (Stickmonkey, Warseer)

TYRANT GUARD
gain Furious Charge and Rage if the Hive Tyrant they are guarding is killed (Bregalad, Warseer)

ALPHA WARRIOR
HQ choice
Made using Warriors and Raveners kits



ELITES
LICTORS
Fixing to their deployment rules (Alession at GD Italy)
Deployment like IG's Marbo but into area terrain only, no scatter, and may assault same turn w difficult terrain test (Stickmonkey, Warseer)
No more 0-1 restriction, 3 per FOC slot, 3 wounds (BramGaunt, WarSeer)
Point cost lowered (Scryer, Warseer)

ZOANTHROPE
No more 0-1 choice (BramGaunt, WarSeer)
Moved to Elites
Zoanthrope will come with 2 different blasts. One against infantry and one against vehicles. Same range as the old warpblast, but way more powerfull (Hydra)

VENOMTHROPE
Pic: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
Poisoned attack 2+, grants 5+ cover save to models within 6" (BramGaunt, WarSeer)

HIVEGUARD
Pic: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
Impaler Cannon - weapon that does not require LOS (BramGaunt, WarSeer), 2 shots at Strength 8 Ap ?
BS 4

PYROVORE
Pic: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
Similar statline to Tyrant Guard,
"Flamer weapon" Poisoned 2+, AP3, template


TROOPS
GAUNTS
Hormogaunt for 5pts, option of WoN for +3
+1 Initiative, Ld6 (BramGaunt, WarSeer)

Gaunts with no weapons but with WoN for 3pts (Xas, BOLS lounge)
Fleshborers at 1pt (King Elessar, BOLS lounge)
Gaunt boxes repacked into Termagants or Hormogaunts (King Elessar)

GENESTEALERS
Stealers staying as Troops
Point dropp (BramGaunt, WarSeer)

BROODLORD
Broodlord does more to stealers than just FOC change options (Stickmonkey, Warseer)
Broodlord moved to Troops (most likely as upgrade character)
No more 0-1 restriction

WARRIORS
Warriors moved to Troops
Alpha version for HQ (Hydra)
3 Wounds, 4+ Save (Scryer, Warseer)

RIPPERS
No solid rumours yet



FAST ATTACK
RAVENERS
pic: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
Sprues: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif

Raveners will be able to Deep Strike through the tunnels of Trygon, and I'm 95% they'll be able to Assault the same turn. Possibly not needing to roll for Reserves either (King Elessar)
3 Ravs in a box(Brimstone)

GARGOYLES
Pic: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
Sprues: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
10 Gargs in a box, flying bases (rumours by Brimstone and Harry, Warseer)
Poisoned attack - each 6 to hit causes wound, normal save applies (BramGaunt, WarSeer)
Reduced point cost (Scryer, Warseer)


HEAVY SUPPORT
TRYGON/MAWLOC
Pics: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
Trygon http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
Mawloc http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif

Size comp: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif

Sprue pics: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif

Trygon/Mawloc kit is compatible with Carnifex kit.
Trygon/Mawloc data sheets for Apocalypse in WD February

TRYGON
Raveners will be able to enter behind a Trygon and assault the same turn. Although the Trygon itself will not be able to assault, is subject to deepstrike-like scatter, and supposedly with a different mishap table. Or they may deepstrike on their own, like the Trygon...i.e. with modified mishap table. Supposedly off table scatter for either unit results in a return to reserves... (Stickmonkey, WarSeer)
Possibility of Alpha Trygon providing Synapse.(Bregaland, WarSeer)

MAWLOC
Shock troop, can fall back, can borrow/disappear during movement phase just to shock back next round. If Mawloc base shocking in contact with enemy base, place 5" template above and everyone in contact with it will get S6 AP2 hit.(Bregaland, WarSeer)
"Swallowing" option

TYRANNOFEX and TERVIGON
2 entries based on Trygon and Carnifex kits

CARNIFEX
"The new book will let players field even more Carnifexes than before" (Allessio at GD Italy)
Fex "nerf" will "make sense", is not related to Nid-zilla. players will still want to have many fexes (Stickmonkey, WarSeer)
Broods of up to 3, WS4 BS3, +1Attack (BramGaunt, WarSeer)

BIOVORE
Codex entry: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
New Biovore model (Phill Kelly @GD Germ)
SPORE MINES
Sold in pack of 9
Pic: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif



SPECIAL CHARACTERS
DEATH LEAPER
WS9, I7, Rending on a 5+ (BramGaunt, WarSeer)

OLD ONE EYE
In the codex, no rumours yet

RED TERROR
NOT in the codex but mentioned in the fluff



GENERAL STUFF
Improved anti tank possibilities (Phill Kelly)
Flesh hooks as standard (to be know on what sized models)
Template type weapon
Lash whip can "target" a model in unit in CC (must mean other changes to LW) )
Crushing Claws = dreadnaught CCW + new nid ability (Stickmonkey, WarSeer)
We'll get some sort of instant killing, no more news regardles (Stickmonkey, WarSeer)
New weapons symbiots (BramGaunt, WarSeer)
Every codex entry will get a new artwork (Bregaland, WarSeer)
Army pic: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif
3 codex pages: http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif

ARMY BUILDS:
Quote:
The Tyranids, will be either a wannabe Hive fleet spearhead army, bringing enormous numbers, higher than IG, of weaker basic troops supported by some very specialised units - guess lictors and this kind of stuff or a full scale assault force, consisting of less, but more survivble units, he thinks Warriors as troops, bringing on heavier/more deadlier weapons...
(from Lord Hjamlar on Warseer)


* - take with a pinch of salt
Kudos to Terrorfex, King Elessar, Hive Node, Brimstone, Moloch, Void Lord for deep Trygon analysis, Lord Hjamlar, Dark Primus(WS), Hellbreaker, KrewL RaiN, the One(40konline), Xas (BOLS lounge), Eidre for coverbreakdown, Scryer in the Darkness (WarSeer), Lotoc_Sabbath (WarSeer), Lorizael (40k online), The Dude (WarSeer), Stickmonkey (WarSeer), Carnassire (WarSeer and all who I forgot.

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Mensagem  madwolf em Qui Dez 10, 2009 2:48 am

Madness não te conheço e já estás no topo da minha lista !!!
king Tanta coisa linda k está pra vir ! drunken Vê-se mesmo que o natal está á porta ! santa
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madwolf escreveu:Madness não te conheço e já estás no topo da minha lista !!!

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Mensagem  Netstalker em Sex Dez 11, 2009 8:28 pm

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Mensagem  Ebizo em Sex Dez 11, 2009 10:55 pm

Ei ao Pascoa até foi fixe ter tido um koto de som, graças ao Pedro..não foi assim tão mau.. cheers
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